Good Traffic Ware For Fs2004 Ai
Up until recently I have been using UT2 patched up and kept relatively up to date with the purchasable schedules but something has gone wrong with the main program and it crashes every time I try to open it (although the traffic is still being injected into the sim when I run FSX). This fact coupled with the lack of support has led me to uninstall it and I'm not in the mood to re-install and re-patch it. Can anyone recommend a good replacement? I used Just Flights Traffic X in the past but thought the models were not that great but have no idea if the latest Traffic 360 is an improvement? The only other one I can think of would be MyTraffic 2013 but that looks rather expensive.
Thoughts would be welcome. It depends what you're after.
If you want airliners, you have three choices: Ultimate Traffic X, Traffic360 and MyTrafficX. I used to use TrafficX, but it was a right mess. Ten years out of date even when I had it, very limited models, but you could add some military models by paying for 'PlusPaks'. Very few, though.
Traffic360 is less out of date, has its fans, but I've also seen some very negative reviews. I certainly wouldn't touch it again after my experiences with it, but it does apparently have a historical AI feature which might interest you. Ultimate Traffic 2 uses licensed and FSX compiled versions of some popular freeware FS9 freeware AI models, but only airliners. One thing it does have in its favour is that you can program a flight plan - aircraft don't just fly a direct Great Circle route from A to B (which all default coded AI do, no matter where from).
MyTrafficX has airliners, military, GA, helicopters (although they operate like fixed wing aircraft), covers the entire world and is by far the best supported. That comes at a price, though: Although Burkhard Renk (the author) would shoot me for saying it, his models and liveries are far from the best available. Sometimes they are downright cringeworthy, but are improving over time and with help from other members of the community. It also has the 'time machine' functionality, to set your AI back to the dawn of the jet era. If your system can cope with lots of FS9 models, you also have the choice of freeware AI. You can use AI Flight Planner or something to convert the flight plans to FSX format (do it!) and it will work perfectly apart from the usual graphical glitches.
I have a slight bias - simMarket sells MyTrafficX and I am a simFlight employee - but it really is the best supported of the FSX native packages and has by far the widest scope and variety of aircraft. Perfect, however, it is not by a stretch. That's the ones I use (although I currently have no 3rd party AI installed, including my own creations, as I am part way through a rebuild). Your milage may vary! Cheers, Ian P.
As I don't care about accurate AI flight plans but just want some planes waiting forr takeoff in front of me (and so on) I'm quite happy with Traffic360. The sound of the planes taking off or landing is an unbounded cheek but I reset all AI sound by the sound, that's coming with the FTX-Package. It was a LOT of work, almost one afternoon with some chatting but now it's ok. The visual models are acceptable. You might have some AHA-effects, when you're noticing an F16 approaching Berlin airport but well. The carriers are located at the almost correct regions and there are pretty a lot of different planes.
A really nice AI addon has not been done yet (afaik) but I'm still hoping for an FTX AI addon maybe somedays xD Or maybe even some vintage A2A AI? I don't know where you read that MarcE, but it is not correct. Default programmed AI, which includes MTX and Traffic360, does not follow airways, so they have no effect at all on AI, anywhere.
AI (other than UT2, which follows a pre-determined route) flies a great circle route - the shortest possible distance - between the departure and arrival airports. When it gets within a fixed distance of the destination airport, it then starts getting vectored around by ATC. Between Departure ATC instructions and Arrival ATC instructions, it simply flies in a straight line. Or, well, a curved line, depending on how you draw your map. If you don't know what a great circle route is, try or - alternatively, go into the FSX planner and enter a start point of 'EGLL', an and point of 'KSEA' and 'Direct GPS' flight plan.
That is the route than an AI aircraft would take from London to Seattle. It's not the same route that you would take, following a vaguely realistic flight plan.
The important thing, however, is that AI only exists in a 'bubble of reality' around the user. I can't remember how big it is, from memory, but it's fairly sizable. In order to avoid drawing AI around the entire planet when you will never see it, FSX only 'creates' aircraft in the area centred around you - the player aircraft. If you fly a route that keeps the AI within your 'bubble', you will follow it from the start of the flight to the end. Try picking a default aircraft, listen to its clearance and follow it. The same applies regardless of whether the flight is Boston to New York, Little Piddlingford to Nextdoorsville or Sydney to Tokyo.
Traffic may not be created or drawn a long way from airports, but it doesn't 'disappear' anywhere unless it leaves the 'bubble' around your position. Because, unlike the real world, FSX's AI is not funneled and channeled into 'NATRACKs', 'PACOTs' or similar, you will always see less of it around you on long distance flights across water. It's not 'disappeared', it's just not subject to the same limitations of routing that you have created for yourself. After all, you're free to fly a Great Circle route in the sim if you want to, as well. Cheers, Ian P. Thanks Ian, to have corrected my mistake.
I've deleted my previous posting to avoid wrong information. I have no idea anymore where I red it, it was in any german forum, where people were discussing and arguing about the traffic addons currently available. And this opinion was a general sight. But I think there must be any reason why so many people think AI wouldn't cross the pool, including myself till today.
I will try it out and wait for a flight from EGLL to KJFK or anything like that to follow it for some time. Thanks, Ian!! UT2 might, because that isn't 'native' AI - it is injected and positioned through Simconnect, which is why it is able to follow pre-assigned flight plans rather than just flying a great circle. Having followed AI airliners across the Atlantic, though, I do know that it does fly the full distance if followed. What does happen, though, is that they tend to spread out a lot.
I also spend quite a lot of time using FSCommander, which displays AI around you, so I know that Transatlantic traffic that I have created, plus MTX and TrafficX definitely crosses. Using a set of realistic flight plans, rather than random ones, helps.
Whereas randomised flight plans (such as the default traffic) will have Transoceanic flights scattered throughout the day, realistic flight plans will cluster them together in the morning and evening, as happens in the real world, to take advantage of the winds. This has brought up one question, though. I wonder, if you set up a route that managed to force an airliner to cross over or near to the poles, how FSX would cope with that? The FSX world isn't, I'm sure you're aware, round.
Wonder how that could be tested? Cheers, Ian P.
Quoting : I use Just Flights myself, it's not expensive and it works. The graphics aren't nearly as good as World of AI or Project AI, but my computer can't handle more anyway. Don't be fooled by how good they look. WO AI packages (or more specifically, Aardvark/EvolveAI/Fruitstand models) are much easier on your computer than that awful looking stuff Just Flight puts out. I can guarantee you that you'd notice a significant performance increase if you dumped the payware and installed traffic by WO AI. For more on this, go here: Just to reiterate, I'm not kidding.
The models you paid for are crap. The good stuff is FREE!
Other simmers here will attest to this. Quoting : Don't be fooled by how good they look. WO AI packages (or more specifically, Aardvark/EvolveAI/Fruitstand models) are much easier on your computer than that awful looking stuff Just Flight puts out. I can guarantee you that you'd notice a significant performance increase if you dumped the payware and installed traffic by WO AI. For more on this, go here: Just to reiterate, I'm not kidding. The models you paid for are crap. The good stuff is FREE!
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Other simmers here will attest to this. I've already had World of AI and Project AI, my performance went down the drain. I'm not saying that Just Flight is better, but for those of us who like to have things simple and don't want to spend hours finding files, downloading them and piecing them togther, products like Just Flight are the way to go. Quoting : Until now I was using project AI but I just got a new computer and I'm reinstalling everything and I got world of ai and so far so good, but I noticed some airlines that I had are not available (AR for example), so here's my question, are pai and woai compatible? Can I download both installers and have the packages of both at the same time or will this screw up everything? Thanx in advance! They're totally compatible and will not 'screw' with each other, but they do use different models.
WO AI uses models by Aardvark, EvolveAI, Fruitstand and FSpainter while PAI uses.yeah, I'll say it.their own inferior models. I've put together my own AI for everything WO AI doesn't offer as a package using MR AI installer and models by the aforementioned modeler and my AI is top-notch. Lose the PAI, it detracts from your performance as well as your aesthetics! Quoting : Just to reiterate, I'm not kidding. The models you paid for are crap. The good stuff is FREE!
Other simmers here will attest to this. Amen to that Gunsontheroof. You've said it before and you're saying it again. Seriously though you are right. The best AI traffic you can get is totally free and ones that you put together yourself. You've just got to take a look on avsim.com at the new AI Planes and AI Flight plans that keep coming out every day and see how they are continually improving repaints, models and updating flight plans to summer/winter schedules and incorporate special liveries.
The thing about packages like Just Flight Traffic 2005 or Traffic 2004 is they are very good at filling up airports immediately and bring a lot of traffic with very little effort and at the click of a couple of buttons. That's all very well if you prefer that or don't have the time to make up your own but if you do have the time to and want to learn to put AI traffic in yourself it's a very very worthwhile investment. Doing it this way makes sense for a lot of reasons such as being able to add special liveries as and when they come out, updating flight plans with current schedules and new airports as well as new and improved aircraft models.
Take for example the new AI Aardvark 737-300 version 2. This incorporates a model with winglets and another 2 models with different wing light structures as well as bringing advances in the moving surfaces etc. Here's 2 pictures the first is Just Flight's Traffic and the second is the way my traffic is. You can see the difference in the quality of the models alone. There's just something satisfying about spending some time downloading and installing new aircraft models and flightplans and then seeing them appear in FS.
Once you know how to do them you'll be glad you did. Quoting : are pai and woai compatible? Can I download both installers and have the packages of both at the same time or will this screw up everything? Very much so. As Gunsontheroof said they work together very well.
As long as you make sure you don't have for example a WO AI Air France package and a PAI Air France package installed at the same time. However between the two WO AI wins hands down every time over PAI.
Quoting : Here's 2 pictures the first is Just Flight's Traffic and the second is the way my traffic is. You can see the difference in the quality of the models alone.
Ewww.those jagged models and fuzzy repaints make me want to cry! Quoting : I still will get a few pai packages though, mainly the Latin American airlines (AR, Gol, LAN, CM, TAM and RG) that I didn't see in woai. If you want to learn how to put your own AI together using totally slammin' models and repaints, Gol would be a good airline to learn with.
Not a lot of different planes, readily available repaints. Speaking of AI, I just did an FS reinstall and am currently going through the drudgery of reinstalling WO AI packages and updating my own AI.quite the task, but it'll be worth it when done.
You haven't suffered on avsim until you've tried to get Russian AI models and repaints for carriers in Russia/Central Asia! Allow me to chime in for a second. Like a few of you here, I'm of the 'instant FS gratification' society, myself. I want it, and I want it now.
So I'd considered buying Just Flights until someone told me about PAI. Then my 'cheap' sub-routine took over and I started installing every PAI package under the sun. When I noticed that my computer was running like a racing greyhound with an anvil tied to its head, I asked for help here.
'Change those crappy models out!' Everyone shrieked. I was cringing - not sure how to do it, but people here were kind enough to point out tutorials that enabled me to keep the PAI flightplans and swap 'em out for framerate-friendly, much more aesthetically pleasing AI aircraft. Mostly from Aardvark and FSPainter. NOW it's even easier. You can just ditch it all and install straight from WO AI; flightplans, planes, the whole shebang.
And if they don't have the airline you need, it doesn't take much to download the flightplan and models separately and marry the two. Let me tell you - I cannot begin to explain what a huge difference this all makes. You'll get so much more enjoyment out of seeing the extra performance while seeing better visual models that you'll wonder how you got by before.
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And like Guns said - those lousy PAI models - particularly the CO 752 - just make me want to cry they look so bad. I guarantee you won't be disappointed. I FINALLY found that program on Avsim that enables you to follow your AI planes everywhere - even monitoring ones over a hundred miles away.
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It's awesome! Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe Props and jets from the good old days Views from inside the cockpit Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior Pictures of great freighter aircraft Aircraft flying government officials Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon Accident, incident and crash related photos Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries Airport overviews from the air or ground Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos.